Comments on: Isn’t it inhumane to keep birds in cages all the time? http://www.birdcagehome.com/birds-cages/isnt-it-inhumane-to-keep-birds-in-cages-all-the-time Sat, 10 Apr 2010 00:11:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: laraelucas http://www.birdcagehome.com/birds-cages/isnt-it-inhumane-to-keep-birds-in-cages-all-the-time/comment-page-1#comment-289 laraelucas Fri, 05 Feb 2010 07:39:59 +0000 http://www.birdcagehome.com/birds-cages/isnt-it-inhumane-to-keep-birds-in-cages-all-the-time#comment-289 Not at all. Birds should have time outside of the cage daily, so keep their wings clipped to prevent them from accidentally getting away from you. Mine, inevitably, always fly back to their cage because they feel safe there.<br><b>References : </b><br> Not at all. Birds should have time outside of the cage daily, so keep their wings clipped to prevent them from accidentally getting away from you. Mine, inevitably, always fly back to their cage because they feel safe there.
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]]> By: Sapphyre http://www.birdcagehome.com/birds-cages/isnt-it-inhumane-to-keep-birds-in-cages-all-the-time/comment-page-1#comment-288 Sapphyre Fri, 05 Feb 2010 07:23:59 +0000 http://www.birdcagehome.com/birds-cages/isnt-it-inhumane-to-keep-birds-in-cages-all-the-time#comment-288 I agree that birds need to have some freedom in the house, but it is not inhumane for domesticated birds to be housed in a cage, they accept the cage as their home. But to try to place a Wild Bird in a cage then that is inhumane since they were born in the wild and do not understand being confined, a Wild Bird will try to escape by beating its self against the bars of the cage. They will refuse to eat or drink, and if they are not released they will die. You will not see that kind of behavior with a Domesticated Bird. When I am not at work I will open my parrots cages so they can climb out and walk around, they have their flight feathers clipped so they are not flying and when they choose to return to their cages they will. I will not allow them freedon in the house when I am not home. They are much safer in their cages and have their toys to play with. As a bird owner you need to supervise what they are doing at all times while they are out. You need to think about it this way, birds that can fly around in the house face many dangers that the owner doesnt realize. Such as: 1.ceilings 2 ceiling fans 3.open doors 4.open windows 5.falling into the toilet 6.falling into a pot of cooking food 7.Landing into a sink of water 8. flying into windows And that is just some of the dangers they face being free in the house. I am on a 24/7 call for Emergency care for injured birds that's owners felt their bird should have the freedom to fly in the house. I have seen so many tragic injuries to birds, such as: Case #1 A young Parakeet was allowed to fly in his owners house and slammed into a burning candle, he has wax all over his feathers and feet. Case #2 A young African Gray flew though his home slammed into a window, busting open his chest, he required 3 stitches, and the Vet charge his owns over $300 dollars in medical care. Case #3 A Lovebird was flying into the kitchen and landed in a pot of boiling stew. Bird survived but had sever burns to his feet, and became crippled and was never able to walk again. Case #4 A White Dove was allowed to fly in his home because his owner felt it was cruel to keep his wings clipped. The Dove was perched on top of a door, the door was slammed shut by their kids. The Dove was slammed in the door resulting in a broken neck, death was instant. Now I am not trying to be smart, or nasty. I am stating facts about the safety of birds being in or out of their cages. The cases I mentioned are only a few of so many I have had to deal with. When a bird that has been injured is brought to me, I have to stablize it and get it ready to be transported to a Vet. Some injuries I have seen were so severe that even the Vet can't help and the pet bird dies. Many times I have heard the owners say they didnt think the bird could be injured if they were allowed to have freedom in the house, and they wished they had know it. Now they are minus a pet bird and they are harbored with guilt over it's death. The point I am tying to make is maybe it isnt as inhumane to have a Pet Bird in a cage as you think it is. As opposed to allowing it the freedom to strech their wings fly around the house to only meet their fate. Sapphyre Certified Avian Specialist http://www.borrowed-rainbow.com Join us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BorrowedRainbowAviary/<br><b>References : </b><br> I agree that birds need to have some freedom in the house, but it is not inhumane for domesticated birds to be housed in a cage, they accept the cage as their home.

But to try to place a Wild Bird in a cage then that is inhumane since they were born in the wild and do not understand being confined, a Wild Bird will try to escape by beating its self against the bars of the cage. They will refuse to eat or drink, and if they are not released they will die. You will not see that kind of behavior with a Domesticated Bird. When I am not at work I will open my parrots cages so they can climb out and walk around, they have their flight feathers clipped so they are not flying and when they choose to return to their cages they will. I will not allow them freedon in the house when I am not home. They are much safer in their cages and have their toys to play with.

As a bird owner you need to supervise what they are doing at all times while they are out. You need to think about it this way, birds that can fly around in the house face many dangers that the owner doesnt realize. Such as:
1.ceilings
2 ceiling fans
3.open doors
4.open windows
5.falling into the toilet
6.falling into a pot of cooking food
7.Landing into a sink of water
8. flying into windows

And that is just some of the dangers they face being free in the house.

I am on a 24/7 call for Emergency care for injured birds that’s owners felt their bird should have the freedom to fly in the house. I have seen so many tragic injuries to birds, such as:

Case #1 A young Parakeet was allowed to fly in his owners house and slammed into a burning candle, he has wax all over his feathers and feet.

Case #2 A young African Gray flew though his home slammed into a window, busting open his chest, he required 3 stitches, and the Vet charge his owns over $300 dollars in medical care.

Case #3 A Lovebird was flying into the kitchen and landed in a pot of boiling stew. Bird survived but had sever burns to his feet, and became crippled and was never able to walk again.

Case #4 A White Dove was allowed to fly in his home because his owner felt it was cruel to keep his wings clipped. The Dove was perched on top of a door, the door was slammed shut by their kids. The Dove was slammed in the door resulting in a broken neck, death was instant.

Now I am not trying to be smart, or nasty. I am stating facts about the safety of birds being in or out of their cages. The cases I mentioned are only a few of so many I have had to deal with. When a bird that has been injured is brought to me, I have to stablize it and get it ready to be transported to a Vet. Some injuries I have seen were so severe that even the Vet can’t help and the pet bird dies.

Many times I have heard the owners say they didnt think the bird could be injured if they were allowed to have freedom in the house, and they wished they had know it. Now they are minus a pet bird and they are harbored with guilt over it’s death.

The point I am tying to make is maybe it isnt as inhumane to have a Pet Bird in a cage as you think it is. As opposed to allowing it the freedom to strech their wings fly around the house to only meet their fate.

Sapphyre
Certified Avian Specialist
http://www.borrowed-rainbow.com
Join us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BorrowedRainbowAviary/
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]]> By: music_girl http://www.birdcagehome.com/birds-cages/isnt-it-inhumane-to-keep-birds-in-cages-all-the-time/comment-page-1#comment-287 music_girl Fri, 05 Feb 2010 06:39:59 +0000 http://www.birdcagehome.com/birds-cages/isnt-it-inhumane-to-keep-birds-in-cages-all-the-time#comment-287 Yes, I'd have to agree with you. I always enjoyed having my birds fly around the house following me. They had cages, but they were let out often. Almost all pets need the love of human interaction and affection, too.<br><b>References : </b><br> Yes, I’d have to agree with you. I always enjoyed having my birds fly around the house following me. They had cages, but they were let out often. Almost all pets need the love of human interaction and affection, too.
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]]> By: thebestmanintheallplanet http://www.birdcagehome.com/birds-cages/isnt-it-inhumane-to-keep-birds-in-cages-all-the-time/comment-page-1#comment-286 thebestmanintheallplanet Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:57:59 +0000 http://www.birdcagehome.com/birds-cages/isnt-it-inhumane-to-keep-birds-in-cages-all-the-time#comment-286 No!Is not inhumaneto keep the birds in the cages ,because we can free for 1 or 2 hours to fly in the house!<br><b>References : </b><br>I have a parrot! No!Is not inhumaneto keep the birds in the cages ,because we can free for 1 or 2 hours to fly in the house!
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]]> By: andy3191 http://www.birdcagehome.com/birds-cages/isnt-it-inhumane-to-keep-birds-in-cages-all-the-time/comment-page-1#comment-285 andy3191 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:34:59 +0000 http://www.birdcagehome.com/birds-cages/isnt-it-inhumane-to-keep-birds-in-cages-all-the-time#comment-285 my parrot is on a perch and not caged. he will have a major hiss fit when i go out of town and have to cage him.<br><b>References : </b><br> my parrot is on a perch and not caged. he will have a major hiss fit when i go out of town and have to cage him.
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]]> By: babefirstclass http://www.birdcagehome.com/birds-cages/isnt-it-inhumane-to-keep-birds-in-cages-all-the-time/comment-page-1#comment-284 babefirstclass Fri, 05 Feb 2010 04:44:59 +0000 http://www.birdcagehome.com/birds-cages/isnt-it-inhumane-to-keep-birds-in-cages-all-the-time#comment-284 Actually, as long as the cage is big enough, it cannot really be attributed as being inhumane. For a cockatiel, I suggest going for nothing less then a 30x18x18 cage. If you cannot afford the biggest cage possible to fit in your house, then one must re-think about buying a bird. I believe if people feel so strongly about having birds as pets, then they should not have dogs, horses or cats- no pets whatsoever. Not letting a cat outside can be considered "inhumane"; a dog not being allowed to hunt is "inhumane"; breaking and riding a horse should be "inhumane"; keeping a goldfish in an aquarium is "inhumane". These animals were bred specifically to be our companions, and anyone who pulls a tiger, a wolf, a kiger mustang or a macaw from it's natural habitat and expect it to be a pet are the ones who need to be looked at. Birds bred in aviaries have never seen the sky as a collie has never hunted to find food, a cat does not live amongst the trees, or a Lipizzaner stallion has never seen the plains.<br><b>References : </b><br> Actually, as long as the cage is big enough, it cannot really be attributed as being inhumane. For a cockatiel, I suggest going for nothing less then a 30×18x18 cage. If you cannot afford the biggest cage possible to fit in your house, then one must re-think about buying a bird.

I believe if people feel so strongly about having birds as pets, then they should not have dogs, horses or cats- no pets whatsoever. Not letting a cat outside can be considered "inhumane"; a dog not being allowed to hunt is "inhumane"; breaking and riding a horse should be "inhumane"; keeping a goldfish in an aquarium is "inhumane". These animals were bred specifically to be our companions, and anyone who pulls a tiger, a wolf, a kiger mustang or a macaw from it’s natural habitat and expect it to be a pet are the ones who need to be looked at. Birds bred in aviaries have never seen the sky as a collie has never hunted to find food, a cat does not live amongst the trees, or a Lipizzaner stallion has never seen the plains.
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]]> By: bambi http://www.birdcagehome.com/birds-cages/isnt-it-inhumane-to-keep-birds-in-cages-all-the-time/comment-page-1#comment-283 bambi Fri, 05 Feb 2010 04:39:59 +0000 http://www.birdcagehome.com/birds-cages/isnt-it-inhumane-to-keep-birds-in-cages-all-the-time#comment-283 I have parakeets and they are in their cage, but I usually let them fly around my house, but they prefer their cage. A cage is like a house for them. I don't think is inhumane to have my birds in their cages, what I think is inhumane will be let them fly outside, because of the weather in the state I live they will be dead on fall. I will prefer to leave them inside in their cages and fly inside my house.<br><b>References : </b><br> I have parakeets and they are in their cage, but I usually let them fly around my house, but they prefer their cage. A cage is like a house for them. I don’t think is inhumane to have my birds in their cages, what I think is inhumane will be let them fly outside, because of the weather in the state I live they will be dead on fall. I will prefer to leave them inside in their cages and fly inside my house.
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]]> By: thebirdlady http://www.birdcagehome.com/birds-cages/isnt-it-inhumane-to-keep-birds-in-cages-all-the-time/comment-page-1#comment-282 thebirdlady Fri, 05 Feb 2010 04:05:59 +0000 http://www.birdcagehome.com/birds-cages/isnt-it-inhumane-to-keep-birds-in-cages-all-the-time#comment-282 It isn't if they are a small species like finches or various Australian grass keet species AND the cage is a flight cage or some other large cage (appropriate bar-spacing) where they can fly around to get exercise. The problem with letting such small species out and about in one's living room is that they often end up falling behind a piece of large furniture and get stuck. They can't find their way out again and die a slow and agonizing death. Better put them in a huge flight cage where they are safe AND can play and exercise. And YES, when i see poorly designed cages or animals in itsy-bitsy-teeny-weeny cages I ALWAYS say something to the pet owner about the innapropriatness of the enclosure. Guess what? YOU SHOULD DO THE VERY SAME! We all should. Anyway, parrots too should be housed in humungo-sized cages with plenty of toys, but I believe that they should spend more time out of their cage per day than actually inside it. If you don't have the time for such extended out-of-cage supervision hours then you don't need a parrot in the first place. Buy 2 smaller birds (or more depending upon the species) and house them in a HUGE enclosure (called a flight cage or simply a "flight). If you can't afford proper cageing, then you CAN'T AFFORD THE BIRD, capice? Alternatively, you could always try your hand at plant propagation, but please try not to do them any harm either!<br><b>References : </b><br>my life with birds It isn’t if they are a small species like finches or various Australian grass keet species AND the cage is a flight cage or some other large cage (appropriate bar-spacing) where they can fly around to get exercise. The problem with letting such small species out and about in one’s living room is that they often end up falling behind a piece of large furniture and get stuck. They can’t find their way out again and die a slow and agonizing death. Better put them in a huge flight cage where they are safe AND can play and exercise. And YES, when i see poorly designed cages or animals in itsy-bitsy-teeny-weeny cages I ALWAYS say something to the pet owner about the innapropriatness of the enclosure. Guess what? YOU SHOULD DO THE VERY SAME! We all should. Anyway, parrots too should be housed in humungo-sized cages with plenty of toys, but I believe that they should spend more time out of their cage per day than actually inside it. If you don’t have the time for such extended out-of-cage supervision hours then you don’t need a parrot in the first place. Buy 2 smaller birds (or more depending upon the species) and house them in a HUGE enclosure (called a flight cage or simply a "flight). If you can’t afford proper cageing, then you CAN’T AFFORD THE BIRD, capice? Alternatively, you could always try your hand at plant propagation, but please try not to do them any harm either!
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]]> By: Jenny http://www.birdcagehome.com/birds-cages/isnt-it-inhumane-to-keep-birds-in-cages-all-the-time/comment-page-1#comment-281 Jenny Fri, 05 Feb 2010 03:50:59 +0000 http://www.birdcagehome.com/birds-cages/isnt-it-inhumane-to-keep-birds-in-cages-all-the-time#comment-281 yes, it is very inhumane. A birds natural instinct in the wild is to fly. And somehow over the years, birds were bred to be our pets, and to be tame around people. So since these birds did not get a choice as to whether to be our pets or live in the wild, then it is only fair to give them as much freedom in our homes as humanly possible. I have 7 birds. And I have them in huge cages for plenty of room. My birds roam the house during the day, and are only caged at night or when I leave the house. And this is only for their own safety. If you cant handle having a bird loose in your house, or do not have plenty of time to spend with them, then do not get one. Its not fair to the bird. Happy pets are the best pets, and trust me, a bird trapped in a cage all the time, will not be a happy one. Or even a healthy one for that matter.<br><b>References : </b><br> yes, it is very inhumane. A birds natural instinct in the wild is to fly. And somehow over the years, birds were bred to be our pets, and to be tame around people. So since these birds did not get a choice as to whether to be our pets or live in the wild, then it is only fair to give them as much freedom in our homes as humanly possible. I have 7 birds. And I have them in huge cages for plenty of room. My birds roam the house during the day, and are only caged at night or when I leave the house. And this is only for their own safety. If you cant handle having a bird loose in your house, or do not have plenty of time to spend with them, then do not get one. Its not fair to the bird. Happy pets are the best pets, and trust me, a bird trapped in a cage all the time, will not be a happy one. Or even a healthy one for that matter.
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]]> By: Peter C http://www.birdcagehome.com/birds-cages/isnt-it-inhumane-to-keep-birds-in-cages-all-the-time/comment-page-1#comment-280 Peter C Fri, 05 Feb 2010 03:03:59 +0000 http://www.birdcagehome.com/birds-cages/isnt-it-inhumane-to-keep-birds-in-cages-all-the-time#comment-280 Yes, I think it's inhumane, too. Unless you had a cage the size of a department store, then maybe, but most people couldn't afford that.<br><b>References : </b><br> Yes, I think it’s inhumane, too. Unless you had a cage the size of a department store, then maybe, but most people couldn’t afford that.
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